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Old 08-03-2010, 06:58 PM
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BC23 is up.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:10 PM
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BC23 is up.
Here is the direct link. Apparently was up since yesterday.
Thanks for catching this billcat
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:26 PM
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I am slightly confused but that is normal for me.

The name of the bootcode file contains the letters PAL. Is this in reference to the type of video output or something else? In other words for people in the U.S. is there a bootcode that says NTSC in the name?

Thanks for clearing this up.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:19 AM
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I am slightly confused but that is normal for me.

The name of the bootcode file contains the letters PAL. Is this in reference to the type of video output or something else? In other words for people in the U.S. is there a bootcode that says NTSC in the name?

Thanks for clearing this up.
All bootcode (16,18,20,23) contain the word PAL in it; I don't think it stands for the video standard but rather something like "Programmable Array Logic" or something like that. Furthermore the bootcode is launch very early on in the bootup process; It's a little bit like your computer bios; and the box does not care at that point about the video standard. The video standard is looked after by the firmware not the bootcode.

EDIT: Correction; it does stand for PAL as indicated below by wigout but it's irrelevant since the firmware takes over after boot up and set the proper standard as selected in the video menu.

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Old 08-04-2010, 01:44 AM
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Snappy & all-
In the ellion/conceptronic gpl material on the bootcode, the examples include PAL & NTSC labelled bootcodes, so I think this time it does mean whatever PAL means in tv-lingo.
What it seems to indicate, however, is that the initial splash screen is in PAL (or NTSC as the case may be).
So no biggie for us ntsc'ers.
-wigout
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:51 AM
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Thanks for the info wigout and for setting me up straight . By the way which initial splash screen are you talking about ???? The Box Office logo is definitely in ntsc .... well I think since my screen does not seem to be black and white (Hard to tell since it's white writing on a black screen) and rolling around; or would I just see that on the composite video O/P not the HDMI.

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Old 08-04-2010, 01:21 PM
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Snappy-

I have always understood that the pbo defaults to PAL- that's why the initial logo/startup and firmware update screens are only visible over composite cable for me. I can "see" the logo scrolling around- but that's a consequence of trying to watch a PAL signal on a NTSC display.

I think this is a little less clear if you have a tv which natively displays both PAL and NTSC- and apparently a lot of not name brand tv's are.

There's two last tv-encoding notes, both related:
One it's part of the environment/env settings at boot time:
param_addr=10000 tv_system=PAL usb_otg=off otg_gpio=0 12V5V_GPIO=44,hion POWERKEY_IRRP=0xE51AB649 POWERKEY_GPIO=78
Two, those system parameters get reflected in the /sys/realtek_boards/
/sys/realtek_boards/tv_encoding_system
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cat /sys/realtek_boards/tv_encoding_system
yields:
0 (PAL)

This "fixes" itself once your smartish hdmi connection straightens out the pbo about what signal you'd like; in my case NTSC.

Of course I could be wrong about all of that. Just doing some guessing and reading between the lines.

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Old 08-05-2010, 04:12 AM
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Of course I could be wrong about all of that. Just doing some guessing and reading between the lines.

-wigout
Yea, I was also guessing and reading between the lines in my previous post. Unfortunately with the support we are giving that's pretty much what most of us have to do; it's kind of a miss and hit thing.

Thanks for your inputs and the great job you are doing here.

EDIT: You are correct about the PAL logo wigout; I just confirmed it by pressing the info button on my LG TV while the PBO is booting up. On the BOX OFFICE logo it indicates a signal of 576i which is the standard for PAL; after bootup my TV indicates 1080P. As you mentioned thru the magic of HDMI this is not noticeable on my TV Screen. Thanks; today is a good day because I learned something.

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Old 08-06-2010, 05:19 PM
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Thanks for the info wigout and for setting me up straight . By the way which initial splash screen are you talking about ???? The Box Office logo is definitely in ntsc .... well I think since my screen does not seem to be black and white (Hard to tell since it's white writing on a black screen) and rolling around; or would I just see that on the composite video O/P not the HDMI.

Cheers!
I hooked up the PBO to my Panasonic front projector via HDMI, the Patriot logo appeared briefly at the centre of the screen during boot up.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:38 PM
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Who took out the edit option in telnet?
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